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Does Your Wide-Angle Lens Have Lightroom Profile?

Published: 19/01/2015

Willie recently asked where he could find a Lightroom lens profile:

I spent the last 2 weeks looking for a lens correction profile for the Tokina AT-X 16-28mm F/2.8 PRO FX Lens. I use this lens on a Nikon D700 and I shoot RAW (DNG) files. I process my photos in Adobe Lightroom.

After a little research, I noticed that my Lightroom 5 does, in fact, have a lens profile for the Tokina 16-28mm lens. I also checked the lens profile list at the adobe site and that list indicates that Lightroom supports the lens. There are two ways to check if Lightroom supports any given lens:

  1. If you have Lightroom: First of all make sure you have the latest version. As of this writing it's version 5.7. Select any RAW file. Then go to the Lens Corrections panel. Click on the profile tab. Click the Enable Profile Corrections check box. Then use the  Make, Model and Profile selectors to search through all the available lenses.
  2. If you don't have Lightroom: Go to the list of Lightroom supported lenses and all the lenses Lightroom supports are listed.

This whole discussion with Willie, and the research I did to answer his question, made me realize how much I depend on the Lightroom lens profile for my wide-angle lens and that my lenses table needed some updating. There are very few wide angle lenses these days that don't have Lightroom support. There is only one lens in the lenses table that doesn't have a Lightroom profile:

  1. Tamaron 11-18mm f/4.5-5.6 - this lens is widely used, but only available now used. This lens is going to be replaced by the Tokina AT-X 11-20mm f/2.8 PRO DX soon. Like in Feb 2015.
  2. Olympus and Panasonic Micro Four Thirds cameras have lens correction done in the camera. See this article for details.
  3. Tilt-Shift lenses don't have profiles because the have knobs that you can purposely crank around and change the lens characteristics. Tom Niemann over at the PTLens site has a discussion about lens correction with tilt-shift lenses.

There is a period of time when a new lens like the Tokina 11-20 or the Canon 10-18 comes out before a profile is available, but within months there is usually a Lightroom update that provides a lens profile. Don't ask me what happened with the Tamaron 11-18mm and why it never got a profile.

Larry Lohrman

10 comments on “Does Your Wide-Angle Lens Have Lightroom Profile?”

  1. For those shooting with newly released but unsupported lenses and/or dated versions of photoshop/lightroom, there is a simple solution... tho it's not the optimum solution, it works reasonably well if you're not interested in manually adjusting the distortions for each focal length:

    Select the nearest lens profile by the same manufacturer. For example, I recently purchased Canon's efs 24 stm and their was no profile available. I chose a similar lens (can't remember which) but it corrected the distortion and vignetting nearly as well as i could manage.

    A second option is to create a preset in lightroom with manual corrections which you can apply during post. Not the greatest for zooms and variations with aberrations, but close enough until Adobe releases their profile.

    Im sur others have other work-arounds and I'd be interested to hear your input!

  2. Both Lightroom and Camera Raw read my Sigma 10-20 F4-5.6 as a 28-80 F3.5-5.6 lens on my Sony A65. My new Sony A6000 with the 16-50 kit lens is read perfectly because all lens corrections are done incamera. Because of this my post processing time is cut by 33%. Not only that but when I photograph with the 10-20 on the 65, I have the lens distortion in liveview to deal making it difficult to lineup the image. With the 6000 the liveview is perfect reducing my photography time another 33%. Instead of a total 3 hours time with the A65 it's now 2 hours using the A6000. I love it!

  3. Does the manual correction also work with complex things like moustache distortions (which is like a combo of barrel and pincussion)? Not sure if even the automatic correction takes this into account.

  4. When I shoot with my Nikon either in RAW or JPG, Lightroom (when Profile is checked) will detect and profile my Nikon lenses (20mm f-2.8) on my D-700, D-300 or D-7000.. but when I use my Tokina 12-24 or 11-18, in JPG, on my D-7000 or D-300, there is no profile in jpg, not even a Tokina choice (I use the Sigma 12-24 profile choice, but its not the same as Tokina). Tokina only shows up in RAW.

    and when I shoot with my New Fuji X-Pro 1 and 10-24, there is only 1 ( X ) choice, but it is a generic choice when shooting Fuji RAW (RAF).
    If I shoot my Fuji in JPG, there is no Fuji profile at all, only Apple, Canon, DJI, GoPro ,Nikon, Sigma, Sony and Tamron.

    When shooting with the GoPro on the drone, (I don't shoot video only stills) the Profile distorts the hell out of the image. instead, I profiled the camera manually. which looks better.
    does anyone shoot any stills using a go pro or Fuji X system?

    But, stills from the GoPro hero 3 Black are terrible when blown up

  5. I use the same lens except for Canon. You are correct that LR does have the profile for the lens. But what I found was that it would not for what ever reason, seem to detect the lens that was used to apply the correction. So I did some research and came upon this fix

    Some times LR does not "automatically" detect the correct lens. When this happens 1) select the correct lens profile and 2) next to 'Setup' under Lens Profile Corrections select 'Save New Lens Profile Defaults.'

    Since then, the correct profile is automatically selected...

  6. Don't need it. The downloads / updates through LR dump too much MB for a simple fix. LR has the fix, manual as it is.... better 🙂

  7. Adobe's help page for lens correction is here:

    The following are the first two bulleted items on the page.

    "There are separate lens profiles for raw and non-raw files. Photoshop, Camera Raw, and Lightroom display only the profiles available for the file type of the selected image."

    "Best results occur when you apply lens profiles to raw files. When you apply a lens profile to a non-raw file, you can experience unexpected results. Results vary because the data in non-raw files changes depending on how the file was created."

    I am not sure what that is supposed to mean or how we are supposed to deal with it. Additionally, can anyone suggest a reason why there would need to be different lens profiles for RAW vs Non-Raw images.

    I have download JPEG's directly from the camera thru both Lightroom and Adobe Photo Downloader. Neither LR or ACR recognizes the JPEG's even though they were shot with one of Nikon's most popular camera's and one of Nikon's most prolific lenses. I shoot RAW + JPG. LR has no trouble recognizing the RAW images.

    I always shoot Raw and use DxO Optics Pro. DxO has no trouble correcting RAW's, JPG's, and TIFF's.

    If you shoot RAW and LR has no trouble recognizing your camera/lens combos, you are good to go. But, if you shoot JPG, Adobe's help files make it seem that you may not be able to trust their results.

  8. Continued from above.

    Ideally (in my opinion), lens distortion correction should be able to be done:

    1.) at the very start of your workflow, before any other editing is done on the image

    2.) in batch

    3.) automatically

    Without having to worry about remembering to correct images one at a time later in your workflow and having to determine each time that the correction has been done correctly.

    I would be interested in other's thoughts.

  9. My preferred Sigma 12-24 happens to have a JPEG profile in LR. And I prefer to do most RE work in JPEG, since I value consistent results and speedy processing over ultimate IQ. But it seems odd that there are so few profiles offered in JPEG, and so many in RAW. I haven't noticed any JPEG profiles being added in recent years, either.

    So what's included in a profile? Is it just a single, global adjustment for vignetting and distortion? If so, and it seems to be so, then it's pretty easy to choose a set figure for these two parameters and perform a batch adjustment. If a profile can handle more complex distortions like I see from the Sigma UWAs, that would be another story, and something I'd value more.

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