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What Are Your Experiences with the New Adobe Creative Cloud Applications?

November 5th, 2017

I’ve had several readers ask what to do about the recent changes to Lightroom. Lee in WA said:

I’m confused. I want to stay (mostly) with the now-renamed Lightroom Classic CC , using my desktop storage, but want to access a couple new features unique within the new Lightroom CC. So, I’d like to just resort to the new Lightroom CC for only a small portion of my images, in order to live with their 20GB cloud storage limit.

Where’s everyone headed? Wait until the new CC settles and stabilizes?

Here are my experiences with the new Lightrooms and Photoshop: I have the $9.95/mo. photographer subscription but haven’t had time yet to explore all the new features of Lightroom Classic CC, Lightroom CC, and the newest version of Photoshop. I just updated to Lightroom Classic CC, updated To Photoshop CC 2018, and installed the new Lightroom CC.

Lightroom Classic CC and Photoshop CC 2018 so far work the same for me as they did before the updates. I’ve had no show-stopping issues yet! Lightroom CC appears to me to be very much like Lightroom Mobile for the desktop.

What are your experiences with the new Adobe Creative Cloud applications?

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11 Responses to “What Are Your Experiences with the New Adobe Creative Cloud Applications?”

  • I am a little more happy with the new CC Classic – the speed has improved for both importing and creating of 1:1 previews and seems not to bog down as badly as it has been when editing in the Develop function. CC 2015 was atrociously slow, especially if adjustment brushes were employed – it appears that the adjustment brush function is much improved, too.

    I have not used some of the new features of CC Classic, just haven’t had the need. Photoshop works just as well as it did before, it still works great for sky replacements and cloning out unwanted objects, which is my main use of it.

    I really don’t know why I would want to use CC – my upload speed for my Internet connection is only 5 MB, so it would take longer to upload full res photos to the cloud than I have to actually create them. I don’t feel like subjecting myself to another workflow delay.

    I figure if you have an Adobe CC account, you can download, install and try CC along with the Classic version and Photoshop and try it out. If it doesn’t work for you, wait until something comes along that does.

  • If you use Infuse it doesn’t automatically unstack after processing. Not a big deal, but different and you may need a work flow adjustment.

  • I was at Adobe Max a couple of weeks ago when all of this was announced, and took a class that went into the use of Lightroom CC. Basically what it amounts to is that Adobe confused issues by trying to re-brand Lightroom Mobile, because basically Lightroom CC is just an updated version of LR Mobile. One instructor that I spoke with about it had the take that most people don’t use keywords, the print module, key wording or various other functions in Lightroom, and just want to go to the Develop module, and that this new Lightroom CC was the answer to that.

    If you are shooting bigger files using an ILC then you most likely would continue to use LR Classic, because of the larger file sizes and bandwidth constraints. My takeaway is that it’s still intended to be for a mobile workflow.

    Although the re-branding seems confusing and unnecessary, I have to wonder if they did it because eventually they intend CC (mobile) to be the main program. I think that in order to make it effective, you would need to buy more cloud storage from them, thereby increasing their revenue. But of course, as previously stated, bandwidth can be an issue as well.

  • For me it has sped up a little, plus the upright correction is now working most of the time! I ended up deleting CC because it is aimed at amateurs and will be of no benefit.

  • Lightroom Classic CC is quite a bit faster for me.

    If Lightroom CC ever gets the full functionality that classic does, I will switch. I color code and delete redundant frames not used in compositing so storage would not be an issue.

    I currently use Lightroom CC for personal family photos – much quicker to edit and share than going through Classic.

  • I am wondering if Jim may not have hit on an important issue. During most of my photographic life, most of which proceeded digital, there were products aimed at pros and then other products developed for amateurs. When digital came along with the advent of computers, that same sort of thinking was extended to the new technology recognizing that pros needed more involved and sophisticated tools that took longer to learn and master but achieved the goals they required. While amateurs, for the most part, were snap shot’ers and needed much more simple and easy to use with short learning curves to be able to use. Mainly point and shoot as we all remember.

    But then, and I trace it much to the advent of the cell phone that would take photos and iMovie and iPhoto that allowed much more sophisticated results to come from still easy to use software that then morphed into “Apps”, this began to turn things onto their heads. As digital cameras began to produce really fine results, the demand for film fell off even with pro’s so the support for professional products in the traditional market place also dropped off.

    And we found that the consumer products that quickly became highly sophisticated in what they could do started driving the professional market. Businesses had to accept that college graduates worked 24/7 from where ever they were; the traditional 9 to 5 was fading fast.

    And with the growing demand for products to feed this amateur market but for products that rivaled and were beginning to exceed the quality of the pro products of what was now yesteryear, it was the amateur, recreational market that was the money maker, not the small pro market.

    And we pro’s actually have benefitted from these developments. Until the control and features we need become phased out in favor of this mass other market. In the case of CC, which here seems to focus on LR, only if you shoot fairly small JPEG images and not that many of them would working with files in the cloud be much use. Especially if you shoot with your cell phone and process them on your cell phone.

    How many professionals would do this? None that I know of. As mentioned, our files are too big, too many, and especially for those that use HDR, triple the number of those who don’t. Bandwidth even in today’s world is too limited.

    I don’t use LR that comes packaged with my PS CC that only use for renaming my image names. Sort of like buying a Ferrari to drive down to the corner store for some milk, I know. But I am happy with my Bridge. Frankly, after having the latest CC PS upgrade, I long for the time when my software was static and not based on the whims of a developer who changes things since if he/she did not, they would no longer be needed. Now my tools work differently, I have little pop up windows every time I click on a tool and I find my fly unzipped. Well not really the later but the time may arrive.

    So the tail is wagging the dog for professionals. Makes me wonder when I can retire.

  • I find LR Classic OK. It is not any faster on my machine and I go as fast and efficiently (or not) as before.

    What IS a problem for me is a bug in Photoshop that re-centers the image any time I click on a layer or re-size when in full screen mode. I am often workin off center on small details and re-sizing or selecting another layer causes the image to jump to center requiring a a re-zoom.

  • Oh yes, the selection tools still suck.

    I have listened for years and studied endless tutorials on selection and despite all the hype and happy talk, the tools are still frantically imprecise and tedious.
    The plain truth is that the tools suck and the third party tools that claim to do better just suck in a different way.

  • I was happy to hear that was faster and initially appeared that was the case as I imported the current job working on. Then step2 … star rating … as I tabbed through ranking each category 1=trash, 2=HDR groups, 3= masking, 4=tour pano sequence and 5= primary/deliverables. Tabbing through to assign initially though had a bunch out of focus then finally gave clear presentation. I realize Sony a7rII RAW files are huge (42MB) but seems way slower than prior to the update. It in nice that the group import is marginally faster, but that is a one time event. The delay with accessing individually is slowing me down.

  • As I do not have internet at home (and may never, for inexplicable reasons known only to AT&T and Charter), LR CC will be useless to me unless I want to cut more into my VERY finite allotment of hotspot data on my iPad. I will stick with Lightroom Classic. I have had my problems with it in the past, and with Adobe (I’m seeing this trend of big companies making decisions that not everyone is liking), but Lightroom is an essential part of my workflow and I will NEVER move to a 100% mobile workflow. With that said, LR CC could be somewhat useful to me in the field, especially when I am taking my cell phone outside to snap a front photo at a realtor’s request, because I tell them there’s no way I’m taking my DSLR outside while it’s raining.

    But here I sit, an the back-end of technology as the world goes more mobile because I don’t have internet in The Year of our Lord Two-Thousand-Seventeen; even if I wanted to use LR CC, I couldn’t, really.

  • Previews load faster, but one thing I noticed is that on my 2014 MacBook Pro it starts hitting the fans up and high as soon as I start using the sliders and develop the images, which makes it very laggy in the end. So I see speed improvements when it comes to previews but for the rest it has become slower and more annoyed to work with for me.

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