What Are The Options For Setting The Picture Style For Video On The 5D MkIII?

June 15th, 2015

PictureProfileLast week Jeff asked:

What are the options for setting the picture style on a 5D MkIII for real estate video?

Vincent Laforet did a post a couple of years ago when the 5DMkIII was just released that explained some of the options for setting the picture style for video. As Vincent says in the video this help you capture the widest dynamic range possible.

What to real estate videographers use for picture style settings for the 5DMkIII?

 

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One Response to “What Are The Options For Setting The Picture Style For Video On The 5D MkIII?”

  • I create my own using Canon’s Picture Style Editor. I have specialized ones for Portraits, Interior Stills, and for Video.

    The one I use for interior stills mutes yellows, oranges, and reds, which Canon cameras seem exaggerate. For whatever reason, my Nikons don’t have that problem, (but, Nikon rear screens still stink as live monitors). The Canon rear screens can be calibrated dead on. In both cases, you still shoot RAW for stills, and use a custom matching profile you’ve made in the Picture Style Editor to bring the RAW back to life, but for video, starting flat is better.

    The Canon video profile I’ve made for interiors mutes blues and greens moreso, as well as moderately muting the yellows, oranges, and reds, and desaturates, and lowers the contrast on the entire look. I mute the blues and greens because these are the problematic colors that reflect on the ceilings from outdoor light. Since the windows are blown out anyway, it doesn’t matter that those colors are more desaturated… but it does give me a neutral ceiling that makes grading easier. Interior ceilings would naturally have a warm cast from incandescent light, but when mixed with incoming ambient light (blue and green), you get some nasty coloration if you don’t mute them. When you add saturation and contrast back in while grading, the decor gets nice and colorful, but the ceiling stays fairly neutral. Muting the oranges and reds keeps the woodwork and cabinets in check, and muting the yellows helps both the woodwork and incandescent light.

    I’ve tried Vincent’s suggestions, and a few others, but they don”t necessarily work well with interior video because they aren’t focused on architecture specifically, and my goal was to get the video to look similar to the stills, not withstanding the blown windows. It’s not a dead-on match, but close enough.

    There are tutorials on YouTube for how to create custom Canon picture profiles. It requires a RAW converter to DNG, a DNG editor, and the Picture Profile Editor.

    The Nikon’s don’t seem to need the same amount of tweaking. For interiors I use:
    -2 Contrast
    +1 Sharpness
    0 Tone
    -2 Saturation
    WB 4500K
    ISO 3200
    f 9
    1/60

    I only adjust the ISO for exposure changes. HOWEVER… these settings are flat, and require some grading to get them to look good. Post production grading is probably harder then setting up the camera, and it requires the same kind of knowledge and application that grading stills in PS does. In my experience, any automated settings screw it all up.

    It’s not necessarily more complex then stills, but it’s easily as complex. It took me awhile to wrap my head around a predictable workflow. Some jobs are still out-of-whack though. A house with lots of windows (incoming blue light) that has medium beige walls still SUCKS. Beige + blue = puke. A friend of mine combats that by shooting beige interiors at dusk, and setting the WB to incandescent… but he’s totally screwed if they are using florescent bulbs (martian green), and worse if they have a combination of mixed bulbs like many homes, and the exterior windows are dark enough to see detail, which shows as very very blue outdoors. Not a great solution IMO. Even a custom WB on the spot would likely be off-colored for either the bulbs or the whites in the house. Makes for muddy video when muted, or spumoni colored video if saturated. This is quite often what you contend with in areas where basements with egress windows are common. No ambient, funky florescence, and beige paint. <<<bad combo

    One day, when the only choice you can buy are 60-100w LED bulbs, this may be much easier. Maybe.
    /steam of conscious ramblings

    For reference, here's a link to a video I did last Sunday.

    While you can argue about video content styles (POV vs ?), the coloration I've come up with is easy to watch. Nothing outrageous, even in the shadows. This was shot with a Canon 6D (moving footage) and a Nikon D610 (sliders).

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