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	<title>Comments on: Code of Ethics For Real Estate Photographers</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 15:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great posts here. I agree with David. Realtors have to be careful when &quot;enhancing&quot; their listing photos. Digitally removing &quot;permanent&quot; objects is a no-no (power lines,cracks in foundations,driveways,dead trees,adding live trees or grass,etc....) I experienced this first hand when renting a small house just right off the beach for vacation a couple of years back. The real estate office/rental agency took a photo of the ocean and said &quot;ocean view&quot;. Great photo, reason why we rented it.  It was one tier back from the beach. We got there and was totaly shocked to see that the &quot;ocean view&quot; was shot with a telephoto lens straight thru  through a  6 story parking garage in front of the small beach house. I was upset to say the least. We could sit and enjoy the view as long as no one parked......middle of the summer folks...busiest time fo the year...yeah loads of cars. Just stick to the basics of enhancing your photos like color, white balance, contrast and brightness. Leave the other stuff to Glamour  and redbook......and yes folks do notice the smallest details (oil stains!) and the cost to clean it up comes from your commission check!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great posts here. I agree with David. Realtors have to be careful when &#8220;enhancing&#8221; their listing photos. Digitally removing &#8220;permanent&#8221; objects is a no-no (power lines,cracks in foundations,driveways,dead trees,adding live trees or grass,etc&#8230;.) I experienced this first hand when renting a small house just right off the beach for vacation a couple of years back. The real estate office/rental agency took a photo of the ocean and said &#8220;ocean view&#8221;. Great photo, reason why we rented it.  It was one tier back from the beach. We got there and was totaly shocked to see that the &#8220;ocean view&#8221; was shot with a telephoto lens straight thru  through a  6 story parking garage in front of the small beach house. I was upset to say the least. We could sit and enjoy the view as long as no one parked&#8230;&#8230;middle of the summer folks&#8230;busiest time fo the year&#8230;yeah loads of cars. Just stick to the basics of enhancing your photos like color, white balance, contrast and brightness. Leave the other stuff to Glamour  and redbook&#8230;&#8230;and yes folks do notice the smallest details (oil stains!) and the cost to clean it up comes from your commission check!</p>
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		<title>By: James Northen</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Northen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David - Most agents will avoid any lawsuit at all costs. Oil stains in a driveway would be seen at the time of inspections or the walk thru and addressed simply as a credit on the closing statement. That assumes that they were not noticed upon the first showing. 

MJN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David &#8211; Most agents will avoid any lawsuit at all costs. Oil stains in a driveway would be seen at the time of inspections or the walk thru and addressed simply as a credit on the closing statement. That assumes that they were not noticed upon the first showing. </p>
<p>MJN</p>
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		<title>By: Zac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in a hilly harbour city where views of the harbour are highly regarded. When we take view shots they have to be taken on the property. We do not remove powerlines etc that spoil the view. When we use a lens over 50mm we note that it is taken with a telephoto lens. It is the Government Dept here that comes down on RE Agents acting on complaints from buyers and there have been several cases in the past. Buyers regret is the issue here and they sometimes nitpick to comfort their regret. Adding blue skies is fine. Using wide angle is fine as it is simply showing the whole room in one photo rather than just a corner of a room. A measured floor plan helps restore the proper dimensions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in a hilly harbour city where views of the harbour are highly regarded. When we take view shots they have to be taken on the property. We do not remove powerlines etc that spoil the view. When we use a lens over 50mm we note that it is taken with a telephoto lens. It is the Government Dept here that comes down on RE Agents acting on complaints from buyers and there have been several cases in the past. Buyers regret is the issue here and they sometimes nitpick to comfort their regret. Adding blue skies is fine. Using wide angle is fine as it is simply showing the whole room in one photo rather than just a corner of a room. A measured floor plan helps restore the proper dimensions.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oil stains on the driveway may have happened after any pictures had been taken. Cracks in a foundation wall may have not. Lenses alone can make a room look bigger, and I have seen homes advertised with certain room sizes that are very much misrepresented. The balance is between enhancing and hiding. For any property I have sold or purchased there is a Yes, No, N/A or Don&#039;t Know questionaire that had to be completed. I think as long as pictures don&#039;t hide or obscure info relating to these questions, there can&#039;t be too much concern. A lot of marketing and advertising relies on smoke and mirrors, real estate is not an exception.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oil stains on the driveway may have happened after any pictures had been taken. Cracks in a foundation wall may have not. Lenses alone can make a room look bigger, and I have seen homes advertised with certain room sizes that are very much misrepresented. The balance is between enhancing and hiding. For any property I have sold or purchased there is a Yes, No, N/A or Don&#8217;t Know questionaire that had to be completed. I think as long as pictures don&#8217;t hide or obscure info relating to these questions, there can&#8217;t be too much concern. A lot of marketing and advertising relies on smoke and mirrors, real estate is not an exception.</p>
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		<title>By: David Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t heard of a case like this, haven&#039;t considered a more &quot;ridiculous scenario&quot; - I may be going out on a limb here but, ignorance apparently is bliss, unfortunately ignorance is not a defense in court.  I may have oversimplified my example but was trying to illustrate the point.  Notwithstanding my poor illustration, it hardly warrants ridicule.  Lastly, you can be sued for just about anything these days.  We live in a world where life, liberty, and litigation are the &quot;new pursuits.&quot;    Therefore, in my opinion, if you walk unaware, you are apt to step in dog crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t heard of a case like this, haven&#8217;t considered a more &#8220;ridiculous scenario&#8221; &#8211; I may be going out on a limb here but, ignorance apparently is bliss, unfortunately ignorance is not a defense in court.  I may have oversimplified my example but was trying to illustrate the point.  Notwithstanding my poor illustration, it hardly warrants ridicule.  Lastly, you can be sued for just about anything these days.  We live in a world where life, liberty, and litigation are the &#8220;new pursuits.&#8221;    Therefore, in my opinion, if you walk unaware, you are apt to step in dog crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While not common, houses are sometimes sold and bought sight unseen. In those cases, the buyer has to rely on representations of others. That includes photography. If the photograph materially misrepresents the property, then there is liability attached. 

I never modify any structural defect, including holes in walls. I will do my best to represent colors fairly, lighting fairly, based on what my eye perceives as real. My eye will not perceive room shadows or bright spots lacking in detail. It perceives whites as white unless they are off color creams. I will remove trash cans and even furniture from a picture. Same with leaves on the lawn. Those are things that can and do change. There is no expectation that they will not. I will not remove power lines from a picture but HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG try like heck to rake a picture that avoids them. Again, I try hard to represent reality, if for no other reason than the MLS rules require it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While not common, houses are sometimes sold and bought sight unseen. In those cases, the buyer has to rely on representations of others. That includes photography. If the photograph materially misrepresents the property, then there is liability attached. </p>
<p>I never modify any structural defect, including holes in walls. I will do my best to represent colors fairly, lighting fairly, based on what my eye perceives as real. My eye will not perceive room shadows or bright spots lacking in detail. It perceives whites as white unless they are off color creams. I will remove trash cans and even furniture from a picture. Same with leaves on the lawn. Those are things that can and do change. There is no expectation that they will not. I will not remove power lines from a picture but HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG try like heck to rake a picture that avoids them. Again, I try hard to represent reality, if for no other reason than the MLS rules require it.</p>
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		<title>By: larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew- Yes, for many years it was exactly this argument that lead me to, &quot;go too far&quot; modifying photos. The reason this argument doesn&#039;t fly is that a photo is recognizable as a photo and carries with it an expectation of &quot;reality&quot; that goes with it. Modified photos are generally regarded as deception, even though marketing photos are routinely modified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew- Yes, for many years it was exactly this argument that lead me to, &#8220;go too far&#8221; modifying photos. The reason this argument doesn&#8217;t fly is that a photo is recognizable as a photo and carries with it an expectation of &#8220;reality&#8221; that goes with it. Modified photos are generally regarded as deception, even though marketing photos are routinely modified.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Ptak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Ptak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many times have you seen a development that says &quot;Artists Representation&quot;? and there are trees as far as the eye can see, - yet you know there are roads and buildings where all of this nature is suppose dto be</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many times have you seen a development that says &#8220;Artists Representation&#8221;? and there are trees as far as the eye can see, &#8211; yet you know there are roads and buildings where all of this nature is suppose dto be</p>
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		<title>By: larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the 10+ years I&#039;ve been involved in real estate and very close to real estate I have not heard of any agent being sued for any issues relating to photography. There may have been some suits like this, I just haven&#039;t heard of them.

I think a bigger issue than being sued by a buyer for misrepresenting a property is the one of building trust. All the successful agents I know are concerned about building trust with buyers, sellers and other agents. Most buyers will see the property face-to-face before they purchase and they will make their decision on that rather than the photos. Buyers will also  notice if the listing agent is purposely being deceptive with the photos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the 10+ years I&#8217;ve been involved in real estate and very close to real estate I have not heard of any agent being sued for any issues relating to photography. There may have been some suits like this, I just haven&#8217;t heard of them.</p>
<p>I think a bigger issue than being sued by a buyer for misrepresenting a property is the one of building trust. All the successful agents I know are concerned about building trust with buyers, sellers and other agents. Most buyers will see the property face-to-face before they purchase and they will make their decision on that rather than the photos. Buyers will also  notice if the listing agent is purposely being deceptive with the photos.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a photographer, I feel it is my job to give my client what they want.  All my clients sign a contract before a shoot.  One of the things in that contract states that I will not &quot;doctor&quot; the photos unless asked.  If asked, I will do so while making sure the agent is aware of the code of ethics and the MLS rules. I will then deliver both the Photoshopped and Unphotoshopped version of each modified image.  

It&#039;s up to them how they decide to market their listings and conduct their business.  It&#039;s up to me to provide my clients with good service and options.  

There have been a few cases where the agent has wanted the photo to be doctored to use in their own Sold Listings portfolio - not as a direct means to market the property.  Not every doctored photo is used for marketing the home.  Perhaps a home owner wanted it as a keepsake or some other legitimate reason.

I have not heard of a photographer being legally liable for misrepresenting a home.  Having a contract can help mitigate the risk, and beyond that... That&#039;s what insurance is for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a photographer, I feel it is my job to give my client what they want.  All my clients sign a contract before a shoot.  One of the things in that contract states that I will not &#8220;doctor&#8221; the photos unless asked.  If asked, I will do so while making sure the agent is aware of the code of ethics and the MLS rules. I will then deliver both the Photoshopped and Unphotoshopped version of each modified image.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s up to them how they decide to market their listings and conduct their business.  It&#8217;s up to me to provide my clients with good service and options.  </p>
<p>There have been a few cases where the agent has wanted the photo to be doctored to use in their own Sold Listings portfolio &#8211; not as a direct means to market the property.  Not every doctored photo is used for marketing the home.  Perhaps a home owner wanted it as a keepsake or some other legitimate reason.</p>
<p>I have not heard of a photographer being legally liable for misrepresenting a home.  Having a contract can help mitigate the risk, and beyond that&#8230; That&#8217;s what insurance is for.</p>
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