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		<title>By: larry</title>
		<link>http://photographyforrealestate.net/2009/04/05/presentation-of-photos-is-as-important-as-the-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-15486</link>
		<dc:creator>larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 04:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Herb- Thanks for your comments. I think you guys do a great job of presentation in your premium tours. 

For those that haven&#039;t seen the tourfactory.com premium tours this is what they look like:

    http://tours.tourfactory.com/tours/tour.asp?t=468861

This has got to be a model of how to do it. Big photos that dominate the presentation yet tons of details for those who want it that stay out of the way in fly-out menus along the left site, plus Ken Burns panning. The most remarkable aspect is that this kind of tour is called a &quot;video&quot; tour by 90% of the world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Herb- Thanks for your comments. I think you guys do a great job of presentation in your premium tours. </p>
<p>For those that haven&#8217;t seen the tourfactory.com premium tours this is what they look like:</p>
<p>    <a href="http://tours.tourfactory.com/tours/tour.asp?t=468861">http://tours.tourfactory.com/tours/tour.asp?t=468861</a></p>
<p>This has got to be a model of how to do it. Big photos that dominate the presentation yet tons of details for those who want it that stay out of the way in fly-out menus along the left site, plus Ken Burns panning. The most remarkable aspect is that this kind of tour is called a &#8220;video&#8221; tour by 90% of the world!</p>
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		<title>By: Herb Dierks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb Dierks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 01:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree with you more!  Packaging matters - more than people realize.  These philosophies - photo size, viewer tech., presentation design - are supremely important in making a positive lasting impression.

The most challenging aspect is the balance of providing compelling effect while supporting the widest audience.  This target wouldn’t be quite so difficult if it weren’t always in motion.

It&#039;s also very hard to be disciplined enough to minimize the clutter of ancillary functionality.  A well designed presentation stays out of the way of the photos.  After all, that’s what the people want.  Give it to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more!  Packaging matters &#8211; more than people realize.  These philosophies &#8211; photo size, viewer tech., presentation design &#8211; are supremely important in making a positive lasting impression.</p>
<p>The most challenging aspect is the balance of providing compelling effect while supporting the widest audience.  This target wouldn’t be quite so difficult if it weren’t always in motion.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also very hard to be disciplined enough to minimize the clutter of ancillary functionality.  A well designed presentation stays out of the way of the photos.  After all, that’s what the people want.  Give it to them.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also agree 100%. Although I am relatively new to the real estate photography business, I use a photo gallery that has an automatic forward to a non flash page if it senses that the viewer&#039;s computer or iphone doesn&#039;t have flash. The feedback on that is great. 
Size matters when it comes to the mls photos and every realtor that I work for would agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also agree 100%. Although I am relatively new to the real estate photography business, I use a photo gallery that has an automatic forward to a non flash page if it senses that the viewer&#8217;s computer or iphone doesn&#8217;t have flash. The feedback on that is great.<br />
Size matters when it comes to the mls photos and every realtor that I work for would agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris
I was referring to the screen size of netbooks, often 800x600 in total  and even the most popular normal  screen res of 1024 x 768 would miss off the thumbnails below unless you scroll,  so something for photographers to bear in mind. 
Flash is as an issue on portable devices like the iphone, etc. If I was looking through lots of properties, load times would be important for me.  I think the medium size Lightroom gallery of 780 pixels at 70% quality is a good compromise and resizes for smaller screens,  but for a lot of properties I&#039;d probably use javascript.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris<br />
I was referring to the screen size of netbooks, often 800&#215;600 in total  and even the most popular normal  screen res of 1024 x 768 would miss off the thumbnails below unless you scroll,  so something for photographers to bear in mind.<br />
Flash is as an issue on portable devices like the iphone, etc. If I was looking through lots of properties, load times would be important for me.  I think the medium size Lightroom gallery of 780 pixels at 70% quality is a good compromise and resizes for smaller screens,  but for a lot of properties I&#8217;d probably use javascript.</p>
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		<title>By: larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only popular platform that can&#039;t display Flash is the iPhone. Adobe, I think, have done a Flash implementation for the iPhone but Apple chooses not to use it due to &quot;techno-religious&quot; issues.

I wish Apple would fix this problem but at this point I&#039;m not ready to give up my Flash slide shows on my site just for iPhone users (of which I&#039;m one). If iPhone usage continues to grow and continues Apple continues to refuse Flash I may have to reconsider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only popular platform that can&#8217;t display Flash is the iPhone. Adobe, I think, have done a Flash implementation for the iPhone but Apple chooses not to use it due to &#8220;techno-religious&#8221; issues.</p>
<p>I wish Apple would fix this problem but at this point I&#8217;m not ready to give up my Flash slide shows on my site just for iPhone users (of which I&#8217;m one). If iPhone usage continues to grow and continues Apple continues to refuse Flash I may have to reconsider.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil-

What notebooks are you using that cant handle flash properly?  Even on my old P3 laptop flash ran with no problems and that laptop is probably 8 years old.

Any laptop in the last 5 yers will run flash with no problems at all and if it cant then its unfortunately a problem with that specific laptop...not the flash.

I think that the average person uses a cable or DSL connection these days and that a 400kb image is fine with pretty quick load times.  The very min I would use would be 200kb but that is even probably too low quality for a large image.  

The real estate boards around my area (Toronto) even allow much larger image sizes,  500kb+ these days ....which kinda tells you the trend of the connections people are using (5 years ago the same boards were only allowing 200kb max)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil-</p>
<p>What notebooks are you using that cant handle flash properly?  Even on my old P3 laptop flash ran with no problems and that laptop is probably 8 years old.</p>
<p>Any laptop in the last 5 yers will run flash with no problems at all and if it cant then its unfortunately a problem with that specific laptop&#8230;not the flash.</p>
<p>I think that the average person uses a cable or DSL connection these days and that a 400kb image is fine with pretty quick load times.  The very min I would use would be 200kb but that is even probably too low quality for a large image.  </p>
<p>The real estate boards around my area (Toronto) even allow much larger image sizes,  500kb+ these days &#8230;.which kinda tells you the trend of the connections people are using (5 years ago the same boards were only allowing 200kb max)</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, but we have to bear in mind that many are using laptops these days and there&#039;s a major trend towards netbooks and mobile computing.  Large images and Flash pose a problem in this area.  

I also get irritated at seeing images at 400kb= per image and rarely click through a whole image if I can see they are too big on the load times</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, but we have to bear in mind that many are using laptops these days and there&#8217;s a major trend towards netbooks and mobile computing.  Large images and Flash pose a problem in this area.  </p>
<p>I also get irritated at seeing images at 400kb= per image and rarely click through a whole image if I can see they are too big on the load times</p>
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		<title>By: Presentation of Photos is as Important as the Photos - LArry Lohrman &#124; Photo News Today</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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