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	<title>Comments on: Do Your HDR Images Look Like HDR Images?</title>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://photographyforrealestate.net/2008/10/26/do-your-hdr-images-look-like-hdr-images/comment-page-1/#comment-12346</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider HDR as a backup resource rather than an alternative photography technique. I use HDR often but only when really necessary.  I also hate those ghostly HDR left-over looks.  How did professional architectural/interior photographers ever work before HDR introduced? Good article for the over-excited HDR lovers. BTW, Sylvia&#039;s photos are fantastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider HDR as a backup resource rather than an alternative photography technique. I use HDR often but only when really necessary.  I also hate those ghostly HDR left-over looks.  How did professional architectural/interior photographers ever work before HDR introduced? Good article for the over-excited HDR lovers. BTW, Sylvia&#8217;s photos are fantastic.</p>
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		<title>By: David Sherfey</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Sherfey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chester - Yeah, you are right, and if I knew when I bought the XTi that I was going to be doing HDR, the camera choice would have been one that would do more than three bracketed shots at a time.  When I started with this 6 months ago I used 3, 4, or 5 hand set shots, but it was a hassle and I got annoyed with that so on the last house I tried three sets of three and it worked.

Processing time is not an issue for me because I spend around a week on each listing writing and creating websites, so the Photomatix process goes on in the background in batch. Even when I go back and have to re-do some shots with hand tweaks on white balance and details enhancer it is still just a break in the action and not an interference.  There is plenty of other stuff for me to do so I am not twiddling thumbs waiting for Photomatix to finish.

@Larry - The new e-book looks great, and I am looking forward to your new chapter on HDR.  I think I am improving on the details enhancer settings but it still feels more like art than science.  Any light you can shed in that direction would be most helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chester &#8211; Yeah, you are right, and if I knew when I bought the XTi that I was going to be doing HDR, the camera choice would have been one that would do more than three bracketed shots at a time.  When I started with this 6 months ago I used 3, 4, or 5 hand set shots, but it was a hassle and I got annoyed with that so on the last house I tried three sets of three and it worked.</p>
<p>Processing time is not an issue for me because I spend around a week on each listing writing and creating websites, so the Photomatix process goes on in the background in batch. Even when I go back and have to re-do some shots with hand tweaks on white balance and details enhancer it is still just a break in the action and not an interference.  There is plenty of other stuff for me to do so I am not twiddling thumbs waiting for Photomatix to finish.</p>
<p>@Larry &#8211; The new e-book looks great, and I am looking forward to your new chapter on HDR.  I think I am improving on the details enhancer settings but it still feels more like art than science.  Any light you can shed in that direction would be most helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike Martin-I would have to disagree with you on single exposure shots. There are numerous situations where a single exposure can work just fine. No offense intended here Mike, but in my opinion your HDR is way too heavy handed. I looked through some of your work and it doesn&#039;t look natural at all. Take a look at the work done by Dan Achatz, David Palermo and Larry Lohrman. Their HDR work is what HDR is supposed to look like. Again, no offense intended Mike, I just think your work could be better than it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike Martin-I would have to disagree with you on single exposure shots. There are numerous situations where a single exposure can work just fine. No offense intended here Mike, but in my opinion your HDR is way too heavy handed. I looked through some of your work and it doesn&#8217;t look natural at all. Take a look at the work done by Dan Achatz, David Palermo and Larry Lohrman. Their HDR work is what HDR is supposed to look like. Again, no offense intended Mike, I just think your work could be better than it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Chester Bullock</title>
		<link>http://photographyforrealestate.net/2008/10/26/do-your-hdr-images-look-like-hdr-images/comment-page-1/#comment-11997</link>
		<dc:creator>Chester Bullock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David - 9 shots seems like overkill.  Have you read the recommendations from Photomatix? 
http://www.hdrsoft.com/support/help_plugin/bracket.htm

Granted, if it is working, that&#039;s great, but wow, that&#039;s a lot of pix.  I can only imagine how long it takes Photomatix to process that many...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David &#8211; 9 shots seems like overkill.  Have you read the recommendations from Photomatix?<br />
<a href="http://www.hdrsoft.com/support/help_plugin/bracket.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.hdrsoft.com/support/help_plugin/bracket.htm</a></p>
<p>Granted, if it is working, that&#8217;s great, but wow, that&#8217;s a lot of pix.  I can only imagine how long it takes Photomatix to process that many&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Sherfey</title>
		<link>http://photographyforrealestate.net/2008/10/26/do-your-hdr-images-look-like-hdr-images/comment-page-1/#comment-11959</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sherfey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a realtor and do my own photography with HDR pretty extensively to get around the need for lighting equipment. Since I am my own customer I don&#039;t get many complaints, and my sellers *love* what I have done including the early stuff which was way over-done using the default settings in Photomatix....  I&#039;ve experienced all of the faults mentioned above and then some, including some shrill psychedelic results.  I suppose those were &#039;chromatic aberrations.&#039;

There are times when an exaggerated effect works really nicely and I can&#039;t resist using it, like on a log structure horse barn that got the &#039;old west&#039; look thanks to HDR.

With the help of this blog as well as occasional lurks on the flikr discussions, I have solved some of the cooked-up problems in my first attempts and have gone back and re-done everything. Still not perfect, but improving, and the most recent project got an accepted offer in less than a week.  That is what it is all about.

I use a Canon Rebel XTi with a 10-22 lens, and am presently doing nine interior shots bracketed one stop apart, and Photomatix seems to be able to sort through it nicely.  Exteriors are three bracketed at 2 stops apart, handheld, and if the wind is a problem one of those shots is used as a psuedo.  When the house gets full sun on the front,  though, no HDR is needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a realtor and do my own photography with HDR pretty extensively to get around the need for lighting equipment. Since I am my own customer I don&#8217;t get many complaints, and my sellers *love* what I have done including the early stuff which was way over-done using the default settings in Photomatix&#8230;.  I&#8217;ve experienced all of the faults mentioned above and then some, including some shrill psychedelic results.  I suppose those were &#8216;chromatic aberrations.&#8217;</p>
<p>There are times when an exaggerated effect works really nicely and I can&#8217;t resist using it, like on a log structure horse barn that got the &#8216;old west&#8217; look thanks to HDR.</p>
<p>With the help of this blog as well as occasional lurks on the flikr discussions, I have solved some of the cooked-up problems in my first attempts and have gone back and re-done everything. Still not perfect, but improving, and the most recent project got an accepted offer in less than a week.  That is what it is all about.</p>
<p>I use a Canon Rebel XTi with a 10-22 lens, and am presently doing nine interior shots bracketed one stop apart, and Photomatix seems to be able to sort through it nicely.  Exteriors are three bracketed at 2 stops apart, handheld, and if the wind is a problem one of those shots is used as a psuedo.  When the house gets full sun on the front,  though, no HDR is needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Chester Bullock</title>
		<link>http://photographyforrealestate.net/2008/10/26/do-your-hdr-images-look-like-hdr-images/comment-page-1/#comment-11950</link>
		<dc:creator>Chester Bullock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post.  I am still fine tuning my HDR skills, but I have been able to produce a few images that don&#039;t have that telltale HDR look and yet are.  

I was blown away the other day to see an ad in National Geographic Traveler for a property in Phoenix (I want to say it was  Hyatt Resort but the issue is at home) that was clearly done in HDR.  Yes, it had &quot;the look&quot;.  Not overdone, but enough to tell what it was.  Maybe this signals the start of acceptance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post.  I am still fine tuning my HDR skills, but I have been able to produce a few images that don&#8217;t have that telltale HDR look and yet are.  </p>
<p>I was blown away the other day to see an ad in National Geographic Traveler for a property in Phoenix (I want to say it was  Hyatt Resort but the issue is at home) that was clearly done in HDR.  Yes, it had &#8220;the look&#8221;.  Not overdone, but enough to tell what it was.  Maybe this signals the start of acceptance?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I originally started using HDR because I wanted better exterior shots, never dreaming I could take this technology inside.  But now, after about two years using Photomatix, I use it most everywhere.  As for the myths:

1. Natural vs. artificial: I appreciate HDR’s ability to show highlights and details the eye can see but single exposure images can’t.  For example, views thru windows, textures on furnishings, reflections off granite counter tops, grains in wood, veins in plant leaves, etc.

2. Client’s protest:  I agree that clients won’t actively debate technique.  However, those that don’t like your product won’t return.  I’ve never had a client complain about not being realistic.

3. 100% HDR?  I have trouble finding a single exposure shot that can’t be improved when combined with some of the many other exposures I take with each scene. My standard work process is to take three bursts of three.  So I end up with 7 exposures from -3 to +3 in one stop increments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I originally started using HDR because I wanted better exterior shots, never dreaming I could take this technology inside.  But now, after about two years using Photomatix, I use it most everywhere.  As for the myths:</p>
<p>1. Natural vs. artificial: I appreciate HDR’s ability to show highlights and details the eye can see but single exposure images can’t.  For example, views thru windows, textures on furnishings, reflections off granite counter tops, grains in wood, veins in plant leaves, etc.</p>
<p>2. Client’s protest:  I agree that clients won’t actively debate technique.  However, those that don’t like your product won’t return.  I’ve never had a client complain about not being realistic.</p>
<p>3. 100% HDR?  I have trouble finding a single exposure shot that can’t be improved when combined with some of the many other exposures I take with each scene. My standard work process is to take three bursts of three.  So I end up with 7 exposures from -3 to +3 in one stop increments.</p>
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		<title>By: Photo News Today &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Do Your HDR Images Look Like HDR Images?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Photo News Today &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Do Your HDR Images Look Like HDR Images?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dylan Darling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dylan Darling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a similar approach as Phil.  I tend to use HDR with 5 exposures.  I then blend it in PS with a 1 or 2 strobe &quot;traditional shot&quot;.  It balances everything well.  But HDR&#039;s are not needed on all interiors or exterieors.  Real estate photographers need to be able to work with strobes as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a similar approach as Phil.  I tend to use HDR with 5 exposures.  I then blend it in PS with a 1 or 2 strobe &#8220;traditional shot&#8221;.  It balances everything well.  But HDR&#8217;s are not needed on all interiors or exterieors.  Real estate photographers need to be able to work with strobes as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These days I tend to blend the original image (adjusted and corrected) with 30/50% HDR image (3 exposures) that I&#039;ve also adjusted and corrected (yellow saturation, whiter ceiling etc).  I find this smoothes out the light and harshness without looking fake /typical hdr  but is a very time consuming process.  With outdoor shots I do the same but all with one RAW image as the movement in  leaves, trees and bushes causes a lack of sharpness when 3 images are taken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These days I tend to blend the original image (adjusted and corrected) with 30/50% HDR image (3 exposures) that I&#8217;ve also adjusted and corrected (yellow saturation, whiter ceiling etc).  I find this smoothes out the light and harshness without looking fake /typical hdr  but is a very time consuming process.  With outdoor shots I do the same but all with one RAW image as the movement in  leaves, trees and bushes causes a lack of sharpness when 3 images are taken</p>
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