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	<title>Comments on: Shooting PAP With Minimum Equipment and Effort</title>
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		<title>By: Cal</title>
		<link>http://photographyforrealestate.net/2008/03/12/shooting-pap-with-minimum-equipment-and-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-19953</link>
		<dc:creator>Cal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a Canon G10 with Nikon wide angle adaptor that I am using atop a Manfrotto Super High Camera Stand (269HDB-3U) to get low level aerial shots when needed. I have a laptop with PSRemote software that I want to use as a monitor &amp; to remote control the camera. I am having a real problem with the USB cable, however. I purchased an @ 32&#039; Active USB 2.0 A Male to B Female cable, paired it with a B Male/A Female adaptor &amp; plugged in an @ 3&#039; A Male/Micro-USB B Male cable to connect the laptop to the pole mounted camera. The connection is unreliable at best, however. Has anyone found a solution to this issue with long USB cables?
Any advice will be much appreciated! Cal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a Canon G10 with Nikon wide angle adaptor that I am using atop a Manfrotto Super High Camera Stand (269HDB-3U) to get low level aerial shots when needed. I have a laptop with PSRemote software that I want to use as a monitor &amp; to remote control the camera. I am having a real problem with the USB cable, however. I purchased an @ 32&#8242; Active USB 2.0 A Male to B Female cable, paired it with a B Male/A Female adaptor &amp; plugged in an @ 3&#8242; A Male/Micro-USB B Male cable to connect the laptop to the pole mounted camera. The connection is unreliable at best, however. Has anyone found a solution to this issue with long USB cables?<br />
Any advice will be much appreciated! Cal</p>
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		<title>By: Photography For Real Estate &#187; DIY Remote Controls For Pole Aerial Photography</title>
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		<dc:creator>Photography For Real Estate &#187; DIY Remote Controls For Pole Aerial Photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my last post on PAP I described the absolute simplest PAP configuration, a small lightweight camera (Canon G9) on a 16 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] my last post on PAP I described the absolute simplest PAP configuration, a small lightweight camera (Canon G9) on a 16 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Another way to do a pole mounted aerial &#124; Chester Bullock Photography &#124; Lakewood, Colorado, USA</title>
		<link>http://photographyforrealestate.net/2008/03/12/shooting-pap-with-minimum-equipment-and-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-11270</link>
		<dc:creator>Another way to do a pole mounted aerial &#124; Chester Bullock Photography &#124; Lakewood, Colorado, USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can tailor their product for still photography, then you might have a winner. Way more costly than a painters pole, but if you have the budget and really want to look ultra-professional (or use your DSLR tethered [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] can tailor their product for still photography, then you might have a winner. Way more costly than a painters pole, but if you have the budget and really want to look ultra-professional (or use your DSLR tethered [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aerial Photography - From a Pole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aerial Photography - From a Pole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] kite, a balloon of some sort, even an r/c helicopter to get a good picture. Had never though about using an extension pole. I should have. After all, I use one to hang Christmas lights on my very tall Douglas firs. It [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] kite, a balloon of some sort, even an r/c helicopter to get a good picture. Had never though about using an extension pole. I should have. After all, I use one to hang Christmas lights on my very tall Douglas firs. It [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aerial Photography - From a Pole &#124; Chester Bullock Photography</title>
		<link>http://photographyforrealestate.net/2008/03/12/shooting-pap-with-minimum-equipment-and-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-9095</link>
		<dc:creator>Aerial Photography - From a Pole &#124; Chester Bullock Photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] kite, a balloon of some sort, even an r/c helicopter to get a good picture. Had never though about using an extension pole. I should have. After all, I use one to hang Christmas lights on my very tall Douglas firs. It [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] kite, a balloon of some sort, even an r/c helicopter to get a good picture. Had never though about using an extension pole. I should have. After all, I use one to hang Christmas lights on my very tall Douglas firs. It [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Photography For Real Estate &#187; News Links Of Interest to Real Estate Photographers</title>
		<link>http://photographyforrealestate.net/2008/03/12/shooting-pap-with-minimum-equipment-and-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-8503</link>
		<dc:creator>Photography For Real Estate &#187; News Links Of Interest to Real Estate Photographers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has a post on putting a point and shoot on a painters pole. This is very similar to the one I did recently on the same subject but I like their suggestion of using a small light ball head on the top of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has a post on putting a point and shoot on a painters pole. This is very similar to the one I did recently on the same subject but I like their suggestion of using a small light ball head on the top of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Photography For Real Estate &#187; New Contender For A Canon G9 Pole Camera</title>
		<link>http://photographyforrealestate.net/2008/03/12/shooting-pap-with-minimum-equipment-and-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-7951</link>
		<dc:creator>Photography For Real Estate &#187; New Contender For A Canon G9 Pole Camera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I bring this up is I&#8217;ve talked to several people that are eying the Canon G9 as a potential PAP (Pole Aerial Photography) camera. Only problem with the G9 as a PAP camera is that without a converter it&#8217;s widest angle is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I bring this up is I&#8217;ve talked to several people that are eying the Canon G9 as a potential PAP (Pole Aerial Photography) camera. Only problem with the G9 as a PAP camera is that without a converter it&#8217;s widest angle is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Photography For Real Estate &#187; What About Using Compact Cameras For Real Estate Photography</title>
		<link>http://photographyforrealestate.net/2008/03/12/shooting-pap-with-minimum-equipment-and-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-6838</link>
		<dc:creator>Photography For Real Estate &#187; What About Using Compact Cameras For Real Estate Photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] most amazing camera I&#8217;ve ever owned! It never leaves my side. This is the camera I use on my PAP pole. What blew me a way when I first started using the G9 is that it&#8217;s RAW files were slightly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] most amazing camera I&#8217;ve ever owned! It never leaves my side. This is the camera I use on my PAP pole. What blew me a way when I first started using the G9 is that it&#8217;s RAW files were slightly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: synthpulse</title>
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		<dc:creator>synthpulse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes!! I want to try this on my next home shoot, which overlooks a golf course. If I mount my Canon S2 (image stabilized) to the pole, I can run a video feed to my portable 8&quot; monitor (DVD player) and set the Canon S2IS to fire off timed shots, while still being able to &quot;aim&quot;. I bet I can make panorama shots this way, too. This could add a whole new level (pun intended) to what I can offer my agents. Cool!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes!! I want to try this on my next home shoot, which overlooks a golf course. If I mount my Canon S2 (image stabilized) to the pole, I can run a video feed to my portable 8&#8243; monitor (DVD player) and set the Canon S2IS to fire off timed shots, while still being able to &#8220;aim&#8221;. I bet I can make panorama shots this way, too. This could add a whole new level (pun intended) to what I can offer my agents. Cool!!!</p>
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		<title>By: David Toman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Toman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve wanted to add PAP to our services for a couple of months now, but without any real sense of demand for the service in our area we just couldn&#039;t justify the expense of a full blown professional system. Not initially at least. So in order to &quot;test the waters&quot; while minimizing our financial risk we started looking for an alternative system which would be;

(a) safe
(b) relatively inexpensive
(c) practical
(d) extremely compact and mobile
(d) professional looking (we admit it, we&#039;re vain)

After lurking around the forums and getting a sense of what others were doing we soon found that our options were pretty limited. We looked into painters poles, wind socks, fiberglass flag poles, telescopic HAM radio towers, modular sign posts - pretty much anything and everything that looked like it might fit the bill. Although some of the other ideas were ingenious, for one reason or another none of them met all of the criteria we were looking for. They were either too heavy to use safely or too flimsy if they weren&#039;t. Too short to be practical or too difficult to transport. Too expensive for now, or (here&#039;s the vanity again) too amateur looking.

We were about to give up searching and splurge on an entry level Clark mast when last week I was strolling through the local Rona (a Canadian Home Depot) and happened upon one of those contractor grade telescopic ladders on sale for $249. Right away I knew I had our temporary solution. 

In case you&#039;re not familiar with these ladders, if you look at them the right way they&#039;re not really ladders at all. They&#039;re actually two 22&#039; telescopic masts with rungs in between them. They&#039;re light, easy to transport, rated for 250 lbs., and best of all they scope down to about 3&#039;-6&quot;. I know some of you already see where I&#039;m going with this, but before I explain what we did you should know that this might not be a project for everyone. You&#039;ll definitely need access to some tools an average handyperson would likely already have in their kit - or at least a friend who does. Also, even though the one we built seems to be working just fine so far, we are definitely not structural engineers. If you do decide to give it a try, like us you also do so at your own peril!
 
Essentially what we did was took the ladder apart. We removed the rungs and wound up with two masts and a total of 16 rungs. As the rungs also contain the individual spring loaded pin mechanisms which keep the ladder/mast erect, we cut the rungs down to just the section which houses the pin - discarding the rest - leaving us with 32 (one for each side) connections. We than reassembled each mast, overlapped them by six feet, and connected them together schooner style with three heavy duty brackets (for the brackets we used boat trailer rollers [$12 each] which worked perfectly because the concave rubber wheel at one end automatically conformed to the radius of the mast). What we ended up with was a stable, heavy duty, 38&#039; (44&#039; less 6&#039;) more or less professional looking telescopic mast. 

For a very simple camera connection we found that if we removed the bottom tube from a telescopic monopod, the next section up fit perfectly inside the top section of the mast. A simple drill through and bolt and presto! If you need more height than this (not very often I suspect), then inexpensive curtain rods also fit perfectly extending your maximum workable range to about 48&#039; or slightly more. With my hefty D200 I definitely wouldn&#039;t go any further though.

For support at the moment the unit is coupled to my Jeep via my wife&#039;s trailer hitch bike rack (she is not pleased), as we are still building a portable base for it with more tubing and outriggers salvaged from a second hand surveyor&#039;s tripod. Total material cost so far is less than $300 for the mast and brackets (not including my monopod). Not too bad for what you get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve wanted to add PAP to our services for a couple of months now, but without any real sense of demand for the service in our area we just couldn&#8217;t justify the expense of a full blown professional system. Not initially at least. So in order to &#8220;test the waters&#8221; while minimizing our financial risk we started looking for an alternative system which would be;</p>
<p>(a) safe<br />
(b) relatively inexpensive<br />
(c) practical<br />
(d) extremely compact and mobile<br />
(d) professional looking (we admit it, we&#8217;re vain)</p>
<p>After lurking around the forums and getting a sense of what others were doing we soon found that our options were pretty limited. We looked into painters poles, wind socks, fiberglass flag poles, telescopic HAM radio towers, modular sign posts &#8211; pretty much anything and everything that looked like it might fit the bill. Although some of the other ideas were ingenious, for one reason or another none of them met all of the criteria we were looking for. They were either too heavy to use safely or too flimsy if they weren&#8217;t. Too short to be practical or too difficult to transport. Too expensive for now, or (here&#8217;s the vanity again) too amateur looking.</p>
<p>We were about to give up searching and splurge on an entry level Clark mast when last week I was strolling through the local Rona (a Canadian Home Depot) and happened upon one of those contractor grade telescopic ladders on sale for $249. Right away I knew I had our temporary solution. </p>
<p>In case you&#8217;re not familiar with these ladders, if you look at them the right way they&#8217;re not really ladders at all. They&#8217;re actually two 22&#8242; telescopic masts with rungs in between them. They&#8217;re light, easy to transport, rated for 250 lbs., and best of all they scope down to about 3&#8242;-6&#8243;. I know some of you already see where I&#8217;m going with this, but before I explain what we did you should know that this might not be a project for everyone. You&#8217;ll definitely need access to some tools an average handyperson would likely already have in their kit &#8211; or at least a friend who does. Also, even though the one we built seems to be working just fine so far, we are definitely not structural engineers. If you do decide to give it a try, like us you also do so at your own peril!</p>
<p>Essentially what we did was took the ladder apart. We removed the rungs and wound up with two masts and a total of 16 rungs. As the rungs also contain the individual spring loaded pin mechanisms which keep the ladder/mast erect, we cut the rungs down to just the section which houses the pin &#8211; discarding the rest &#8211; leaving us with 32 (one for each side) connections. We than reassembled each mast, overlapped them by six feet, and connected them together schooner style with three heavy duty brackets (for the brackets we used boat trailer rollers [$12 each] which worked perfectly because the concave rubber wheel at one end automatically conformed to the radius of the mast). What we ended up with was a stable, heavy duty, 38&#8242; (44&#8242; less 6&#8242;) more or less professional looking telescopic mast. </p>
<p>For a very simple camera connection we found that if we removed the bottom tube from a telescopic monopod, the next section up fit perfectly inside the top section of the mast. A simple drill through and bolt and presto! If you need more height than this (not very often I suspect), then inexpensive curtain rods also fit perfectly extending your maximum workable range to about 48&#8242; or slightly more. With my hefty D200 I definitely wouldn&#8217;t go any further though.</p>
<p>For support at the moment the unit is coupled to my Jeep via my wife&#8217;s trailer hitch bike rack (she is not pleased), as we are still building a portable base for it with more tubing and outriggers salvaged from a second hand surveyor&#8217;s tripod. Total material cost so far is less than $300 for the mast and brackets (not including my monopod). Not too bad for what you get.</p>
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