Comments on: A Template For Full Screen 360 Flash Tours http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/11/19/a-template-for-full-screen-360-flash-tours/ Tips and Techniques for Real Estate Photography Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:23:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Chad Jones http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/11/19/a-template-for-full-screen-360-flash-tours/#comment-3002 Chad Jones Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:53:08 +0000 http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/11/19/a-template-for-full-screen-360-flash-tours/#comment-3002 I'm not a professional photographer by any means, but I typically use a max height of about 1400 on my full 360 panoramas with a jpg quality of 80. I use the immervision flash player and my typical file sizes with auto paths is from 500-1200kb. I have created a very fast and efficient system for creating them too. If i had content I could stitch 6-8 rooms an hour depending on stenciling out things and fixing any small parallax issues that may happen with a wide angle lense. Based on my web log files, over 97% of all visitors to my tours have a compatible version of Flash installed. Java cant even come close. I have a templated custom web application for my tours. I can have a 5 room tour done in about 45 minutes. Stitched to live and online ready to market. I’m not a professional photographer by any means, but I typically use a max height of about 1400 on my full 360 panoramas with a jpg quality of 80. I use the immervision flash player and my typical file sizes with auto paths is from 500-1200kb. I have created a very fast and efficient system for creating them too. If i had content I could stitch 6-8 rooms an hour depending on stenciling out things and fixing any small parallax issues that may happen with a wide angle lense.

Based on my web log files, over 97% of all visitors to my tours have a compatible version of Flash installed. Java cant even come close.

I have a templated custom web application for my tours. I can have a 5 room tour done in about 45 minutes. Stitched to live and online ready to market.

]]> By: larrylohrman http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/11/19/a-template-for-full-screen-360-flash-tours/#comment-1318 larrylohrman Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:18:55 +0000 http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/11/19/a-template-for-full-screen-360-flash-tours/#comment-1318 @Asiavr, Two things: 1-The link you give is an excellent example of the problem that Flash solves. That is, when I click on the link when using my MacBook Pro it says "I want to load a plugin" because it uses shockwave.. not usually on Macs. So as an old PC user conditioned to never load plugins I don't view the image. This doesn't happen if the photographer uses Flash. 2-To answer you second question as I say in the tutorial, the image size that I use for Flash is 3600x1800. But I stitch to 4800x2400, do photoshop repairs and fix nadir and zenith and then downsize with ~50% compression to 3600x1800. @Asiavr,
Two things:
1-The link you give is an excellent example of the problem that Flash solves. That is, when I click on the link when using my MacBook Pro it says “I want to load a plugin” because it uses shockwave.. not usually on Macs. So as an old PC user conditioned to never load plugins I don’t view the image. This doesn’t happen if the photographer uses Flash.

2-To answer you second question as I say in the tutorial, the image size that I use for Flash is 3600×1800. But I stitch to 4800×2400, do photoshop repairs and fix nadir and zenith and then downsize with ~50% compression to 3600×1800.

]]> By: asiavr http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/11/19/a-template-for-full-screen-360-flash-tours/#comment-1314 asiavr Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:41:28 +0000 http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/11/19/a-template-for-full-screen-360-flash-tours/#comment-1314 hi: have a question? what is the best resolution or file size in jpeg to use in pure player with the html template? (eg. 5000x2500 6000x3000) hi:
have a question? what is the best resolution or file size in jpeg to use in pure player with the html template? (eg. 5000×2500 6000×3000)

]]> By: asiavr http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/11/19/a-template-for-full-screen-360-flash-tours/#comment-1315 asiavr Fri, 23 Nov 2007 03:18:52 +0000 http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/11/19/a-template-for-full-screen-360-flash-tours/#comment-1315 hi: this is an awsome tutorial esp the pure player and html portion. next time, please show us more what pure player can do. lately i was quit impressed with the panorama that was created by this website: http://www.geoffreymorelle.com/realisation/visite-virtuelle/leroy-merlin/sdb-purity/index.html they used shockwave player to program tis and the effect was quit good. cheers asiavr hi:
this is an awsome tutorial esp the pure player and html portion.
next time, please show us more what pure player can do.

lately i was quit impressed with the panorama that was created by this website:
http://www.geoffreymorelle.com/realisation/visite-virtuelle/leroy-merlin/sdb-purity/index.html

they used shockwave player to program tis and the effect was quit good.

cheers
asiavr

]]> By: larrylohrman http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/11/19/a-template-for-full-screen-360-flash-tours/#comment-1316 larrylohrman Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:50:10 +0000 http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/11/19/a-template-for-full-screen-360-flash-tours/#comment-1316 Michael, You're right this template is not for mass production the most I ever do is 4 or five a week so I've not tried to make it supper efficient. I don't think there's any easy way to do 4-5 a day... that's hard work! I like Denis's flashpanoramas too. I have his latest version and was thinking about doing a template for it... just haven't got to it yet. The thing I like about the Immervision player is the little navigation bar that is at the bottom of both fullscreen mode and reduced size. Michael,
You’re right this template is not for mass production the most I ever do is 4 or five a week so I’ve not tried to make it supper efficient. I don’t think there’s any easy way to do 4-5 a day… that’s hard work!

I like Denis’s flashpanoramas too. I have his latest version and was thinking about doing a template for it… just haven’t got to it yet.

The thing I like about the Immervision player is the little navigation bar that is at the bottom of both fullscreen mode and reduced size.

]]> By: Michael http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/11/19/a-template-for-full-screen-360-flash-tours/#comment-1317 Michael Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:47:37 +0000 http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/11/19/a-template-for-full-screen-360-flash-tours/#comment-1317 The faster it loads, the better it is. Full screen VTs tend to go over the 7s limit of something happening. Yours Larry it at the limit thanks to the immervision player. There are a couple of VT layout software that helps putting things together with ease, but lately, everything got bulky, cluttered and VERY SLOW loading. At this moment I find that a java based layout using an older version of the 3dvista Show does the trick. The newer version of the Show are nicer, but tend to have 3 loading times... I saw VTs that load in 2 minutes... just crazy... Tourweaver... same thing. Messing with html and PS in doing thumbs and stuff can be ok while you do a VT here and there. But when you have 4-5 VTs a day, you need something template based that generates everything in few minutes after you got the final equirectangulars (out of ptgui or whatever) Something clean with flash output? I love the flashpanoramas player but it's to tedious to implement for mass production. immervision, pretty much same thing... Any other ideas? The faster it loads, the better it is. Full screen VTs tend to go over the 7s limit of something happening. Yours Larry it at the limit thanks to the immervision player.

There are a couple of VT layout software that helps putting things together with ease, but lately, everything got bulky, cluttered and VERY SLOW loading.

At this moment I find that a java based layout using an older version of the 3dvista Show does the trick. The newer version of the Show are nicer, but tend to have 3 loading times… I saw VTs that load in 2 minutes… just crazy… Tourweaver… same thing.

Messing with html and PS in doing thumbs and stuff can be ok while you do a VT here and there. But when you have 4-5 VTs a day, you need something template based that generates everything in few minutes after you got the final equirectangulars (out of ptgui or whatever)

Something clean with flash output? I love the flashpanoramas player but it’s to tedious to implement for mass production. immervision, pretty much same thing…

Any other ideas?

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