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		<title>By: Flickr Alternative</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fantastic read....very literate and informative.  Many thanks....where is your RSS button ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fantastic read&#8230;.very literate and informative.  Many thanks&#8230;.where is your RSS button ?</p>
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		<title>By: Photography For Real Estate &#187; Top 10 Photography For Real Estate Posts In 2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>Photography For Real Estate &#187; Top 10 Photography For Real Estate Posts In 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 03:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Photography For Real Estate &#187; The Business Case For 360VR for Real Estate is Weak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Photography For Real Estate &#187; The Business Case For 360VR for Real Estate is Weak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] did a post last July were I intended to put 360VR in perspective of real estate photography but it fell short of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our agency sells high end homes in New Jersey - we have used http://www.multimediapix.com/ alot.  They are not the cheapest but the tours they produce are the best i have seen...  I am not sure i would use a virtual tour on a cheaper listing... A cheap looking virtual tour could do more harm then good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our agency sells high end homes in New Jersey &#8211; we have used <a href="http://www.multimediapix.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.multimediapix.com/</a> alot.  They are not the cheapest but the tours they produce are the best i have seen&#8230;  I am not sure i would use a virtual tour on a cheaper listing&#8230; A cheap looking virtual tour could do more harm then good.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurent Saint Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurent Saint Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 08:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an excellent article and some brilliant comments too !

I&#039;ve been working on the idea of High quality 360 VR for Real Estate

First, VR is a medium, just like photography, and you have lot&#039;s of bad images, and some that are beautiful.

The problem isn&#039;t just with VR, but offering the right website environment to present the product.

High quality VR WILL cost you money, or you&#039;ll have to train the realtor and invest in the right equipment, and please, forget about mirror 360 gadgets; THESE are the stuff that gives a BAD name to VR. I tried it, you can&#039;t offer the right experience full screen with this kind of extremely low resolution.

You&#039;re better off with a floor-plan and a slideshow of the room from its four corners !

VR is PART of a photographic project for a house. we&#039;re forgetting about this too.

I speak with a few realtors, (upscale), and so far, in France, property market has been booming, they didn&#039;t have to make any effort to present their properties, they didn&#039;t have the TIME to spend 3 hours (at least) in a house, with a tripod, to shoot good quality stills, let good quality VR. They DO like good photography bud don&#039;t have the time to shoot properly. But the property market is now coming down in France, and they have to make more efforts and be creative.

So in the end, i think the problem is TIME and having the right website to present hight quality VR... and still photos too !

But i reckon upscale realtors will come to realize that it&#039;s an absolute shame to present million $ + properties with a couple of stamp size snapshots...

wait until a handful start, and you&#039;ll see.

btw, i read in some comments that realtors don&#039;t like showing the &quot;bad&quot; part of a room. Well, here is another subject i&#039;d love to hear more about:

There is a fine line between providing flattering and glossy looking images/vr from a property, then having your prospect falling depressed when actually physically viewing the site. Major anti climax!

High quality real estate photography is a real challenge, as it&#039;s quiet easy to flatter a property, making it look like some &quot;world of Interiors&quot; magazine, then getting your prospect client disappointed.

Let&#039;s stay realist, and honest, and precisely, IF there is a &quot;bad&quot; part of room, then don&#039;t HIDE it !
And forget about removing cracks on walls, unsighty telephone lines, or refreshing an aging wall paint job !

But invest in 3 hours shooting and 3 hours post processing a property, BOTH in still AND VR, and you&#039;ll have a winner !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an excellent article and some brilliant comments too !</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been working on the idea of High quality 360 VR for Real Estate</p>
<p>First, VR is a medium, just like photography, and you have lot&#8217;s of bad images, and some that are beautiful.</p>
<p>The problem isn&#8217;t just with VR, but offering the right website environment to present the product.</p>
<p>High quality VR WILL cost you money, or you&#8217;ll have to train the realtor and invest in the right equipment, and please, forget about mirror 360 gadgets; THESE are the stuff that gives a BAD name to VR. I tried it, you can&#8217;t offer the right experience full screen with this kind of extremely low resolution.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re better off with a floor-plan and a slideshow of the room from its four corners !</p>
<p>VR is PART of a photographic project for a house. we&#8217;re forgetting about this too.</p>
<p>I speak with a few realtors, (upscale), and so far, in France, property market has been booming, they didn&#8217;t have to make any effort to present their properties, they didn&#8217;t have the TIME to spend 3 hours (at least) in a house, with a tripod, to shoot good quality stills, let good quality VR. They DO like good photography bud don&#8217;t have the time to shoot properly. But the property market is now coming down in France, and they have to make more efforts and be creative.</p>
<p>So in the end, i think the problem is TIME and having the right website to present hight quality VR&#8230; and still photos too !</p>
<p>But i reckon upscale realtors will come to realize that it&#8217;s an absolute shame to present million $ + properties with a couple of stamp size snapshots&#8230;</p>
<p>wait until a handful start, and you&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p>btw, i read in some comments that realtors don&#8217;t like showing the &#8220;bad&#8221; part of a room. Well, here is another subject i&#8217;d love to hear more about:</p>
<p>There is a fine line between providing flattering and glossy looking images/vr from a property, then having your prospect falling depressed when actually physically viewing the site. Major anti climax!</p>
<p>High quality real estate photography is a real challenge, as it&#8217;s quiet easy to flatter a property, making it look like some &#8220;world of Interiors&#8221; magazine, then getting your prospect client disappointed.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s stay realist, and honest, and precisely, IF there is a &#8220;bad&#8221; part of room, then don&#8217;t HIDE it !<br />
And forget about removing cracks on walls, unsighty telephone lines, or refreshing an aging wall paint job !</p>
<p>But invest in 3 hours shooting and 3 hours post processing a property, BOTH in still AND VR, and you&#8217;ll have a winner !</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ned Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that they&#039;re worth it.  Everyone is using the internet these days, and more and more people are wanting their internet access/viewing to be bigger, better, faster.  It&#039;s progressive to go large.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that they&#8217;re worth it.  Everyone is using the internet these days, and more and more people are wanting their internet access/viewing to be bigger, better, faster.  It&#8217;s progressive to go large.</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Waring</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malcolm Waring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the Coolpix 8700 IPIX setup and we just started getting the Real Estate keys again.  I just shot my first two 360s in a long time for a listing last Saturday.

Now that I&#039;m taking waaay better stills (thanks to inspiration from Scott and the rest at Strobist and the RE group), the 360s are much less important than before.

However, I think they are valuable to a buyer when you can set up the shot in a doorway or opening between rooms.  In other words I use it to help show the flow in a house.

Not only that but it only takes a few minutes to do these 2 shot IPIX shots, stitching is fast, and the viewer is relatively reliable.  Oh yes, keys are cheap too.

No if I could only find a way to hack the 8700 so the hotshoe would not be disabled and I could use my strobes grumble grumble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the Coolpix 8700 IPIX setup and we just started getting the Real Estate keys again.  I just shot my first two 360s in a long time for a listing last Saturday.</p>
<p>Now that I&#8217;m taking waaay better stills (thanks to inspiration from Scott and the rest at Strobist and the RE group), the 360s are much less important than before.</p>
<p>However, I think they are valuable to a buyer when you can set up the shot in a doorway or opening between rooms.  In other words I use it to help show the flow in a house.</p>
<p>Not only that but it only takes a few minutes to do these 2 shot IPIX shots, stitching is fast, and the viewer is relatively reliable.  Oh yes, keys are cheap too.</p>
<p>No if I could only find a way to hack the 8700 so the hotshoe would not be disabled and I could use my strobes grumble grumble.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 07:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, I&#039;d be very interested in how that goes for you.  Keep us apprised...  I totally understand offering a quality product as thats a battle that we all face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, I&#8217;d be very interested in how that goes for you.  Keep us apprised&#8230;  I totally understand offering a quality product as thats a battle that we all face.</p>
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		<title>By: larrylohrman</title>
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		<dc:creator>larrylohrman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 05:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Hernan,
I use PTgui. Which costs $79. I&#039;ve been using it for may years and like it very much. It&#039;s been over a year since I&#039;ve downloaded the latest version. This is one of the few stitchers that will stitch fisheye shots into a spherical panorama. The output of PTgui is a equirectangular JPG. Which I use the Immervision Flash software to convert to a panorama that displays in flash.

Let me know if you need anymore help larry@lohrman.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Hernan,<br />
I use PTgui. Which costs $79. I&#8217;ve been using it for may years and like it very much. It&#8217;s been over a year since I&#8217;ve downloaded the latest version. This is one of the few stitchers that will stitch fisheye shots into a spherical panorama. The output of PTgui is a equirectangular JPG. Which I use the Immervision Flash software to convert to a panorama that displays in flash.</p>
<p>Let me know if you need anymore help <a href="mailto:larry@lohrman.com">larry@lohrman.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think high quality virtual tours have a place in real estate, especially for agents looking to really enhance their brand and set themselves apart from the crowd. Virtual tours are no different from any other medium that a real estate agent uses to market their properties, AS WELL AS THEMSELVES: They are not going to pay good money for it if it is not very good...And most virtual tours aren&#039;t that good.

I think there are many real estate agents who would be willing to pay for a nice virtual tour. I am asked to make one every so often (via word of mouth) and I am going to start &quot;officially&quot; offering virtual panoramas in addition to still photography when I get my new website up and running (hopefully soon).

PureTools has BY FAR the best interface/smoothest motion that I have seen besides Quicktime VR. I agree with Larry about Quicktime&#039;s penetration being far below Java and Flash&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think high quality virtual tours have a place in real estate, especially for agents looking to really enhance their brand and set themselves apart from the crowd. Virtual tours are no different from any other medium that a real estate agent uses to market their properties, AS WELL AS THEMSELVES: They are not going to pay good money for it if it is not very good&#8230;And most virtual tours aren&#8217;t that good.</p>
<p>I think there are many real estate agents who would be willing to pay for a nice virtual tour. I am asked to make one every so often (via word of mouth) and I am going to start &#8220;officially&#8221; offering virtual panoramas in addition to still photography when I get my new website up and running (hopefully soon).</p>
<p>PureTools has BY FAR the best interface/smoothest motion that I have seen besides Quicktime VR. I agree with Larry about Quicktime&#8217;s penetration being far below Java and Flash&#8217;s.</p>
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