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		<title>By: Tony Ford</title>
		<link>http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/01/13/how-to-find-a-real-estate-photographer/comment-page-1/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am just starting out in this business, but I did get my first agent last week and have shot 7 houses.  I am using  a DVD mailer as a marketing tool.  I have made a few changes since I uploaded this one to photodex (like removing almost all of the portrait oriented images.  Thanks Larry!).  Check it out and let me know what you think, both of the photography and the marketing tool.

BTW I have two sales meetings scheduled this week and 2 more houses tomorrow.  Is it realistic to think I can get up to 3-5 houses per weekday?  There are over 150 real estate companies within a 35 mile radius of my home/studio.

FYI  North Georgia/SC is a big lake area so the reference to the lake/docks/ corps line at teh end of the presentation is for those listings.

http://www.photodex.com/sharing/viewshow.html?fl=2804209&amp;alb=0

Thanks,

Tony Ford
Cove Point Media</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just starting out in this business, but I did get my first agent last week and have shot 7 houses.  I am using  a DVD mailer as a marketing tool.  I have made a few changes since I uploaded this one to photodex (like removing almost all of the portrait oriented images.  Thanks Larry!).  Check it out and let me know what you think, both of the photography and the marketing tool.</p>
<p>BTW I have two sales meetings scheduled this week and 2 more houses tomorrow.  Is it realistic to think I can get up to 3-5 houses per weekday?  There are over 150 real estate companies within a 35 mile radius of my home/studio.</p>
<p>FYI  North Georgia/SC is a big lake area so the reference to the lake/docks/ corps line at teh end of the presentation is for those listings.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.photodex.com/sharing/viewshow.html?fl=2804209&amp;alb=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.photodex.com/sharing/viewshow.html?fl=2804209&amp;alb=0</a></p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Tony Ford<br />
Cove Point Media</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sieren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Sieren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am young real estate photographer only 7 monthes in the business but have caught on very fast.  When I started my prices were very low but I have raised them because of my quality. Companies like circlepix charge 100-120 for a VT &amp; some stills. I really don&#039;t know what I should be charging, can someone give me an idea. My homepage has photos on it www.Finehomepix.com - I feel that if I don&#039;t charge enough I&#039;m not helping the market for photographers.  My area is the Conejo Valley in Eastern Ventura county 45 minutes northwest of Downtown Los Angeles.   Thank you,   Steve Sieren</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am young real estate photographer only 7 monthes in the business but have caught on very fast.  When I started my prices were very low but I have raised them because of my quality. Companies like circlepix charge 100-120 for a VT &amp; some stills. I really don&#8217;t know what I should be charging, can someone give me an idea. My homepage has photos on it <a href="http://www.Finehomepix.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Finehomepix.com</a> &#8211; I feel that if I don&#8217;t charge enough I&#8217;m not helping the market for photographers.  My area is the Conejo Valley in Eastern Ventura county 45 minutes northwest of Downtown Los Angeles.   Thank you,   Steve Sieren</p>
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		<title>By: Real Central VA - Tracking the Charlottesville and Central VA real estate market and more &#187; Real estate photographers in Charlottesville area?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Real Central VA - Tracking the Charlottesville and Central VA real estate market and more &#187; Real estate photographers in Charlottesville area?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Karl Hoelscher</title>
		<link>http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/01/13/how-to-find-a-real-estate-photographer/comment-page-1/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Hoelscher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FSBO - For Sale By Owner. Not as popular here in AZ now that it has turned back into a Buyers market, but still some out there. Hard to say, though, the level of detail these folks put into getting their homes ready to sell...

I&#039;m working on a postcard now. Finish it up once I&#039;m confident I have some good Gallery images. I&#039;ll mail it to most every agent serving this area (around 100) I know people hate/don&#039;t respond to email spam (me included)very often.

I also have done some websites for a couple of Realtors here, and have a couple more on the burner. Again, once I&#039;m confident of my images and price structure, I&#039;ll try to see if there is any interest there. I just don&#039;t like to take advantage them, or put them on the spot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FSBO &#8211; For Sale By Owner. Not as popular here in AZ now that it has turned back into a Buyers market, but still some out there. Hard to say, though, the level of detail these folks put into getting their homes ready to sell&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m working on a postcard now. Finish it up once I&#8217;m confident I have some good Gallery images. I&#8217;ll mail it to most every agent serving this area (around 100) I know people hate/don&#8217;t respond to email spam (me included)very often.</p>
<p>I also have done some websites for a couple of Realtors here, and have a couple more on the burner. Again, once I&#8217;m confident of my images and price structure, I&#8217;ll try to see if there is any interest there. I just don&#8217;t like to take advantage them, or put them on the spot.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Hargis</title>
		<link>http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/01/13/how-to-find-a-real-estate-photographer/comment-page-1/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Hargis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl,

FSBO= For Sale Best Offer? Whatever it means, good job on nailing the shoot. It&#039;ll be hit or miss, the first freebie portfolio builder I shot never came back, never posted my pictures to MLS -- and her shots were beyond terrible! I never understood why she did that, but I got MY half of the bargain and one of those images is still in my portfolio today.

Another thing I do is to make a web gallery once per quarter and then send a &quot;New Work by Scott Hargis Photography&quot; email out to a list of agents I&#039;ve built up slowly. I hate spam, so I didn&#039;t buy a list, but instead harvested emails from agents/offices I&#039;ve had some personal contact with, but one could certainly be more aggressive. That has gotten a really good response, and of course it&#039;s cheaper than postcards, which I also do quarterly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl,</p>
<p>FSBO= For Sale Best Offer? Whatever it means, good job on nailing the shoot. It&#8217;ll be hit or miss, the first freebie portfolio builder I shot never came back, never posted my pictures to MLS &#8212; and her shots were beyond terrible! I never understood why she did that, but I got MY half of the bargain and one of those images is still in my portfolio today.</p>
<p>Another thing I do is to make a web gallery once per quarter and then send a &#8220;New Work by Scott Hargis Photography&#8221; email out to a list of agents I&#8217;ve built up slowly. I hate spam, so I didn&#8217;t buy a list, but instead harvested emails from agents/offices I&#8217;ve had some personal contact with, but one could certainly be more aggressive. That has gotten a really good response, and of course it&#8217;s cheaper than postcards, which I also do quarterly.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn Shaffer</title>
		<link>http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/01/13/how-to-find-a-real-estate-photographer/comment-page-1/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn Shaffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl - Do not give up. EVERY house needs photos, NOT every house is suitable for a VT. Regarding VT companies offering complete VTs for $70: Their emphasis is on the tour itself and a handful of unedited still photos. Those employed by national companies are on a strict time schedule. Those offices whose &quot;gatekeepers&quot; tell you they have someone on staff who does their photos .. well, move on, my friend....and take the high road. Some of the realtors in those very offices will soon be your clients.

Even if offices have &quot;someone on staff,&quot; there are discerning realtors without the ability who need you. Let them know you&#039;re there when they need you :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl &#8211; Do not give up. EVERY house needs photos, NOT every house is suitable for a VT. Regarding VT companies offering complete VTs for $70: Their emphasis is on the tour itself and a handful of unedited still photos. Those employed by national companies are on a strict time schedule. Those offices whose &#8220;gatekeepers&#8221; tell you they have someone on staff who does their photos .. well, move on, my friend&#8230;.and take the high road. Some of the realtors in those very offices will soon be your clients.</p>
<p>Even if offices have &#8220;someone on staff,&#8221; there are discerning realtors without the ability who need you. Let them know you&#8217;re there when they need you <img src='http://photographyforrealestate.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Karl Hoelscher</title>
		<link>http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/01/13/how-to-find-a-real-estate-photographer/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Hoelscher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron -
what awesome images you have! and great advice! I started my pricing as a one price - 175.00, however many photos needed to shoot the home. Made the &#039;HDR&#039; an option, priced per hour (I see some people do it per window) But, then looking at the local VT companies offering a complete VT and 12 still photos for 70 bucks, I thought who the heck is gonna pay 175 for some stills? But, after looking at your site, and others here, I would pay the extra money to get that kind of quality :) I mean, it&#039;s that old adage: price vs cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron -<br />
what awesome images you have! and great advice! I started my pricing as a one price &#8211; 175.00, however many photos needed to shoot the home. Made the &#8216;HDR&#8217; an option, priced per hour (I see some people do it per window) But, then looking at the local VT companies offering a complete VT and 12 still photos for 70 bucks, I thought who the heck is gonna pay 175 for some stills? But, after looking at your site, and others here, I would pay the extra money to get that kind of quality <img src='http://photographyforrealestate.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I mean, it&#8217;s that old adage: price vs cost.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Hoelscher</title>
		<link>http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/01/13/how-to-find-a-real-estate-photographer/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Hoelscher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, playing off the advice of going to open house and trying to get a shoot, I also thought FSBO&#039;s might also want to do a trade. So I went through the local Craiglist and another online FSBO site, sent out some emails to the homeowners, and got a reply back from one guy so far, and I&#039;ll be shooting his home on Friday. On top of that, both he and his wife are RE agents, so who knows, if he likes my work....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, playing off the advice of going to open house and trying to get a shoot, I also thought FSBO&#8217;s might also want to do a trade. So I went through the local Craiglist and another online FSBO site, sent out some emails to the homeowners, and got a reply back from one guy so far, and I&#8217;ll be shooting his home on Friday. On top of that, both he and his wife are RE agents, so who knows, if he likes my work&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Leitz</title>
		<link>http://photographyforrealestate.net/2007/01/13/how-to-find-a-real-estate-photographer/comment-page-1/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Leitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 03:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 2 cents...

*Images: Your images do the talking. Agents don&#039;t need another person explaining to them how competitive/fast-paced/visually oriented the industry is. All discussion of marketing to agents is moot if you are not displaying your best images on your website and print materials. They need to be big, bright and colorful. They should not look like brightened MLS pics. Minimum 550px wide. Each one must follow Larry&#039;s 10 essentials.

*Marketing approaches: Once you have &lt;strong&gt;great&lt;/strong&gt; images to show off, I would listen to what Larry has already said. Many agents (successful ones in particular) have a violently negative reaction to e-mail solicitations so do a lot of print stuff as well. The successful agents probably have assistants checking and filtering their e-mail anyway. Don&#039;t be cheap with your print marketing either. Give out big, bold, colorful postcards etc and do it often. Again, you are offering your services as a photographer so agents want to see more photos and less talk.

*Pricing structure: I would hesitate to create a pricing structure based upon the &quot;quality&quot; of your images (ie: you only get HDR if you pay $300). No agent is going to pay you to do an &quot;average&quot; job so why even offer it? Instead, take your best shots on every job and price according to your creative time or what you deliver to them (multiple resolutions, DVD, slideshow etc). This way, they can upgrade if they like your work and you don&#039;t have to do the shoot all over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 2 cents&#8230;</p>
<p>*Images: Your images do the talking. Agents don&#8217;t need another person explaining to them how competitive/fast-paced/visually oriented the industry is. All discussion of marketing to agents is moot if you are not displaying your best images on your website and print materials. They need to be big, bright and colorful. They should not look like brightened MLS pics. Minimum 550px wide. Each one must follow Larry&#8217;s 10 essentials.</p>
<p>*Marketing approaches: Once you have <strong>great</strong> images to show off, I would listen to what Larry has already said. Many agents (successful ones in particular) have a violently negative reaction to e-mail solicitations so do a lot of print stuff as well. The successful agents probably have assistants checking and filtering their e-mail anyway. Don&#8217;t be cheap with your print marketing either. Give out big, bold, colorful postcards etc and do it often. Again, you are offering your services as a photographer so agents want to see more photos and less talk.</p>
<p>*Pricing structure: I would hesitate to create a pricing structure based upon the &#8220;quality&#8221; of your images (ie: you only get HDR if you pay $300). No agent is going to pay you to do an &#8220;average&#8221; job so why even offer it? Instead, take your best shots on every job and price according to your creative time or what you deliver to them (multiple resolutions, DVD, slideshow etc). This way, they can upgrade if they like your work and you don&#8217;t have to do the shoot all over again.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 03:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl,

I thought about the top ten reasons thing to, but I just came up with a couple.

&#039;You need me to do your photography because it&#039;s good for your marketing and your photos are crap.&#039;

&#039;I can do it much better and .... I need the work.&#039;

How&#039;s that for the top two reasons? :)

Also Karl, don&#039;t think you&#039;re going to get more business by going cheap. I tried that approach and I got more business when I raised my rates. Try to determine market value, work on your skills and get good at what you do and they will hire you not because you&#039;re a bargain, but because you have such a great product/service. If you start off too low you will find it difficult to raise your rates. I got this advice from one of my early clients who told me to charge more when he saw my work. So I did. But I didn&#039;t go overboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl,</p>
<p>I thought about the top ten reasons thing to, but I just came up with a couple.</p>
<p>&#8216;You need me to do your photography because it&#8217;s good for your marketing and your photos are crap.&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8216;I can do it much better and &#8230;. I need the work.&#8217;</p>
<p>How&#8217;s that for the top two reasons? <img src='http://photographyforrealestate.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Also Karl, don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re going to get more business by going cheap. I tried that approach and I got more business when I raised my rates. Try to determine market value, work on your skills and get good at what you do and they will hire you not because you&#8217;re a bargain, but because you have such a great product/service. If you start off too low you will find it difficult to raise your rates. I got this advice from one of my early clients who told me to charge more when he saw my work. So I did. But I didn&#8217;t go overboard.</p>
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